Comments on: Sicko http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/ full of Ma-loc-key…(bunch of yard doddle).. Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:29:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Softballdude http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8349 Softballdude Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:52:28 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8349 I'm sorry to hear about your choices that you had to make ESC. I'm still not sure some of the comments about wealth floating around I looked outside and saw no wealth floating around. I'll be honest my big problem with government (Socialized Medicine) is me having to be taxed for other peoples health insurance. I think there should be a way to opt out of it. If I am not going to use it why should I have to pay into it. I have the same problem with having to pay property tax for schools when you don't have any children too so don't think I'm just limiting this to Medical. If you think everyone should pay into the system then make it so everyone does no matter what you make as an employee you have to pay into the government ran medical. This should be a payroll deduction not just higher taxes for some parts of the working class.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8349','Softballdude'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8349','Softballdude','I\'m sorry to hear about your choices that you had to make ESC. \n\nI\'m still not sure some of the comments about wealth floating around I looked outside and saw no wealth floating around.\n\nI\'ll be honest my big problem with government (Socialized Medicine) is me having to be taxed for other peoples health insurance. I think there should be a way to opt out of it. If I am not going to use it why should I have to pay into it. I have the same problem with having to pay property tax for schools when you don\'t have any children too so don\'t think I\'m just limiting this to Medical. \n\nIf you think everyone should pay into the system then make it so everyone does no matter what you make as an employee you have to pay into the government ran medical. This should be a payroll deduction not just higher taxes for some parts of the working class.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’m sorry to hear about your choices that you had to make ESC.

I’m still not sure some of the comments about wealth floating around I looked outside and saw no wealth floating around.

I’ll be honest my big problem with government (Socialized Medicine) is me having to be taxed for other peoples health insurance. I think there should be a way to opt out of it. If I am not going to use it why should I have to pay into it. I have the same problem with having to pay property tax for schools when you don’t have any children too so don’t think I’m just limiting this to Medical.

If you think everyone should pay into the system then make it so everyone does no matter what you make as an employee you have to pay into the government ran medical. This should be a payroll deduction not just higher taxes for some parts of the working class.

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]]> By: AmyP http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8348 AmyP Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:51:47 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8348 Bloody hell! I know I complain about the NHS, but at least I don't have to think - hmm... I'm in screaming agony and can't walk, but I'd like to eat tomorrow ...<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8348','AmyP'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8348','AmyP','Bloody hell! I know I complain about the NHS, but at least I don\'t have to think - hmm... I\'m in screaming agony and can\'t walk, but I\'d like to eat tomorrow ...'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Bloody hell! I know I complain about the NHS, but at least I don’t have to think – hmm… I’m in screaming agony and can’t walk, but I’d like to eat tomorrow …
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]]> By: EyeceKnits http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8345 EyeceKnits Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:41:10 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8345 We moved when I was pregnant, so I had to go on COBRA coverage for the duration. $800 a month for the privilege of still paying a copay per visit, and paying 20% of everything else. The second kiddo was born and had an ID number we could use, we submitted for independent health care - husband's company plan would've been more expensive than the COBRA. Since enrolling in that plan, we've had the monthly payment nearly triple, even though we've increased the deductable to a crazy level (and that's a per person deductable too, so out of pocket only applies to the individual, not the account as a whole - grrrr). Why? Because they can, and because I'm older than my husband. A not-insignificant part of the reason we didn't have a second child was because there was no way to get insurance coverage for another pregnancy. How stupid is a system that requires that type of decision? And dental - yeah, just gonna ignore that and hope nothing insane happens. Esc, I hope that your health improves, and that you don't have to make any more decisions like this.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8345','EyeceKnits'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8345','EyeceKnits','We moved when I was pregnant, so I had to go on COBRA coverage for the duration. $800 a month for the privilege of still paying a copay per visit, and paying 20% of everything else. The second kiddo was born and had an ID number we could use, we submitted for independent health care - husband\'s company plan would\'ve been more expensive than the COBRA. Since enrolling in that plan, we\'ve had the monthly payment nearly triple, even though we\'ve increased the deductable to a crazy level (and that\'s a per person deductable too, so out of pocket only applies to the individual, not the account as a whole - grrrr). Why? Because they can, and because I\'m older than my husband. A not-insignificant part of the reason we didn\'t have a second child was because there was no way to get insurance coverage for another pregnancy. How stupid is a system that requires that type of decision? And dental - yeah, just gonna ignore that and hope nothing insane happens.\n\nEsc, I hope that your health improves, and that you don\'t have to make any more decisions like this.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> We moved when I was pregnant, so I had to go on COBRA coverage for the duration. $800 a month for the privilege of still paying a copay per visit, and paying 20% of everything else. The second kiddo was born and had an ID number we could use, we submitted for independent health care – husband’s company plan would’ve been more expensive than the COBRA. Since enrolling in that plan, we’ve had the monthly payment nearly triple, even though we’ve increased the deductable to a crazy level (and that’s a per person deductable too, so out of pocket only applies to the individual, not the account as a whole – grrrr). Why? Because they can, and because I’m older than my husband. A not-insignificant part of the reason we didn’t have a second child was because there was no way to get insurance coverage for another pregnancy. How stupid is a system that requires that type of decision? And dental – yeah, just gonna ignore that and hope nothing insane happens.

Esc, I hope that your health improves, and that you don’t have to make any more decisions like this.

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]]> By: PandoraWilde http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8341 PandoraWilde Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:30:35 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8341 Sweetie, Jamie's an ER nurse and 100% right--if you get that pain back, haul ass for the nearest ER and USE IT! You can't be turned down for lack of adequate coverage--oh, and needing surgery because you have something in your right side? Isn't THAT major medical? And don't you HAVE that insurance? Yes you do! Even if it doesn't cover 100% the negotiated payments do help. I don't even want to open the type of fight that'll start if I tell what my insurance is. Maybe you read the problems I had in December with it tho? I blogged most of it live to have a record of the phone calls that went for hours. Let me know if you want to hear that stuff--meanwhile if you get that pain again quit risking your life and haul ass off to the ER. And if Kev's not there? Call an ambulance so you're not found dead when you could still be alive.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8341','PandoraWilde'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8341','PandoraWilde','Sweetie, Jamie\'s an ER nurse and 100% right--if you get that pain back, haul ass for the nearest ER and USE IT! You can\'t be turned down for lack of adequate coverage--oh, and needing surgery because you have something in your right side? Isn\'t THAT major medical? And don\'t you HAVE that insurance? Yes you do! Even if it doesn\'t cover 100% the negotiated payments do help.\n\nI don\'t even want to open the type of fight that\'ll start if I tell what my insurance is. Maybe you read the problems I had in December with it tho? I blogged most of it live to have a record of the phone calls that went for hours.\n\nLet me know if you want to hear that stuff--meanwhile if you get that pain again quit risking your life and haul ass off to the ER. And if Kev\'s not there? Call an ambulance so you\'re not found dead when you could still be alive.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Sweetie, Jamie’s an ER nurse and 100% right–if you get that pain back, haul ass for the nearest ER and USE IT! You can’t be turned down for lack of adequate coverage–oh, and needing surgery because you have something in your right side? Isn’t THAT major medical? And don’t you HAVE that insurance? Yes you do! Even if it doesn’t cover 100% the negotiated payments do help.

I don’t even want to open the type of fight that’ll start if I tell what my insurance is. Maybe you read the problems I had in December with it tho? I blogged most of it live to have a record of the phone calls that went for hours.

Let me know if you want to hear that stuff–meanwhile if you get that pain again quit risking your life and haul ass off to the ER. And if Kev’s not there? Call an ambulance so you’re not found dead when you could still be alive.

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]]> By: Catknit http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8339 Catknit Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:57:47 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8339 Sorry you've been having a bad time and i hope by now you're feeling better, I can only say how much this reinforces my appreciation of the National Health Service here in the UK. It's not perfect but it does work most of the time, from having a few serious health issues in the past, I can vouch for the total dedication of the staff and the efficiency of the hospitals/General doctors. My pregnancies were both covered so no worries about the money there ( just the cost of the actual end product which only gets higher each year) the kids vaccinations, visits for bumps, cuts, broken limbs, infections etc etc, all covered and all seen with minimum fuss. Hubby tore his achilles tendon in Feb of this year, all consultants fees, surgery, aftercare & physio sorted. My elderly neighbour had a bad fall on Thursday last week and when I phoned the docs, she was seen as soon as we could drive her there. We only pay for prescriptions and thats a set amount per item-not based on what the drug is and if you're on state benefit or in full time education or over retirement age, its free. The only thing I don't like about being ill is the being ill part, I don't have to worry about the cost and peace of mind is invaluable.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8339','Catknit'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8339','Catknit','Sorry you\'ve been having a bad time and i hope by now you\'re feeling better, I can only say how much this reinforces my appreciation of the National Health Service here in the UK. It\'s not perfect but it does work most of the time, from having a few serious health issues in the past, I can vouch for the total dedication of the staff and the efficiency of the hospitals\/General doctors. My pregnancies were both covered so no worries about the money there ( just the cost of the actual end product which only gets higher each year) the kids vaccinations, visits for bumps, cuts, broken limbs, infections etc etc, all covered and all seen with minimum fuss. Hubby tore his achilles tendon in Feb of this year, all consultants fees, surgery, aftercare & physio sorted. My elderly neighbour had a bad fall on Thursday last week and when I phoned the docs, she was seen as soon as we could drive her there. We only pay for prescriptions and thats a set amount per item-not based on what the drug is and if you\'re on state benefit or in full time education or over retirement age, its free. \nThe only thing I don\'t like about being ill is the being ill part, I don\'t have to worry about the cost and peace of mind is invaluable.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Sorry you’ve been having a bad time and i hope by now you’re feeling better, I can only say how much this reinforces my appreciation of the National Health Service here in the UK. It’s not perfect but it does work most of the time, from having a few serious health issues in the past, I can vouch for the total dedication of the staff and the efficiency of the hospitals/General doctors. My pregnancies were both covered so no worries about the money there ( just the cost of the actual end product which only gets higher each year) the kids vaccinations, visits for bumps, cuts, broken limbs, infections etc etc, all covered and all seen with minimum fuss. Hubby tore his achilles tendon in Feb of this year, all consultants fees, surgery, aftercare & physio sorted. My elderly neighbour had a bad fall on Thursday last week and when I phoned the docs, she was seen as soon as we could drive her there. We only pay for prescriptions and thats a set amount per item-not based on what the drug is and if you’re on state benefit or in full time education or over retirement age, its free.
The only thing I don’t like about being ill is the being ill part, I don’t have to worry about the cost and peace of mind is invaluable.
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]]> By: Seth http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8338 Seth Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:18:06 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8338 Sorry ESC! That's so horrible! I cut my finger a little too deep for a band-aid and as I was sitting in the student health center on the phone with the worker's comp people, I couldn't help but wonder how much nicer it would've been to walk in, flash an ID, get my finger fixed and leave. TechReader, I think we can both agree the current system needs lots of work.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8338','Seth'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8338','Seth','Sorry ESC! That\'s so horrible!\n\nI cut my finger a little too deep for a band-aid and as I was sitting in the student health center on the phone with the worker\'s comp people, I couldn\'t help but wonder how much nicer it would\'ve been to walk in, flash an ID, get my finger fixed and leave.\n\nTechReader, I think we can both agree the current system needs lots of work.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Sorry ESC! That’s so horrible!

I cut my finger a little too deep for a band-aid and as I was sitting in the student health center on the phone with the worker’s comp people, I couldn’t help but wonder how much nicer it would’ve been to walk in, flash an ID, get my finger fixed and leave.

TechReader, I think we can both agree the current system needs lots of work.

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]]> By: Brittany Newberry http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8337 Brittany Newberry Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:51:15 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8337 Thanks to our friends across the pond for chiming in on this. I think Americans in general tend to have a very negative view of "socialized medicine" or other such similar systems (such as the VA). People tend to think the care is bad, you have to wait a year for a gall bladder removal, there is no such thing as emergency medicine, the doctors aren't up on the latest evidence based practices and the providers are not good quality professionals. That simply isn't so. You have good and bad doctors and nurses no matter where you are. I think Americans like to have this idea that anything American is just "bigger and better" and that isn't the case. I think we need to look at these other systems around the world and learn from them and come up with a system that combines the best of both worlds. We can do it but I think it means eliminating insurance and litigation as we know it which will unfortunately displace a lot of workers so the choices definitely aren't easy. The current system can't continue to function as it is and I think there are lots of folks out there who still don't realize this. So many people like ESC are sure feeling it though.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8337','Brittany Newberry'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8337','Brittany Newberry','Thanks to our friends across the pond for chiming in on this. I think Americans in general tend to have a very negative view of \"socialized medicine\" or other such similar systems (such as the VA). People tend to think the care is bad, you have to wait a year for a gall bladder removal, there is no such thing as emergency medicine, the doctors aren\'t up on the latest evidence based practices and the providers are not good quality professionals. That simply isn\'t so. You have good and bad doctors and nurses no matter where you are. I think Americans like to have this idea that anything American is just \"bigger and better\" and that isn\'t the case. I think we need to look at these other systems around the world and learn from them and come up with a system that combines the best of both worlds. We can do it but I think it means eliminating insurance and litigation as we know it which will unfortunately displace a lot of workers so the choices definitely aren\'t easy. The current system can\'t continue to function as it is and I think there are lots of folks out there who still don\'t realize this. So many people like ESC are sure feeling it though.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thanks to our friends across the pond for chiming in on this. I think Americans in general tend to have a very negative view of “socialized medicine” or other such similar systems (such as the VA). People tend to think the care is bad, you have to wait a year for a gall bladder removal, there is no such thing as emergency medicine, the doctors aren’t up on the latest evidence based practices and the providers are not good quality professionals. That simply isn’t so. You have good and bad doctors and nurses no matter where you are. I think Americans like to have this idea that anything American is just “bigger and better” and that isn’t the case. I think we need to look at these other systems around the world and learn from them and come up with a system that combines the best of both worlds. We can do it but I think it means eliminating insurance and litigation as we know it which will unfortunately displace a lot of workers so the choices definitely aren’t easy. The current system can’t continue to function as it is and I think there are lots of folks out there who still don’t realize this. So many people like ESC are sure feeling it though.
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]]> By: Imbrium http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8336 Imbrium Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:57:03 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8336 We've already established that The Husband isn't allowed to get sick until he gets a new job (I can't put him on my insurance yet because my open enrollment period hasn't come around yet.) I'm still trying to find a cause/cure for the headaches and migraines that I've endured for 20 years, but the money's running out. I don't know what the answer is, but I certainly know that the current system isn't working. Thinking of you, ESC, and hoping that the cure for what ails you in quick and cheap.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8336','Imbrium'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8336','Imbrium','We\'ve already established that The Husband isn\'t allowed to get sick until he gets a new job (I can\'t put him on my insurance yet because my open enrollment period hasn\'t come around yet.) I\'m still trying to find a cause\/cure for the headaches and migraines that I\'ve endured for 20 years, but the money\'s running out. I don\'t know what the answer is, but I certainly know that the current system isn\'t working.\n\nThinking of you, ESC, and hoping that the cure for what ails you in quick and cheap.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> We’ve already established that The Husband isn’t allowed to get sick until he gets a new job (I can’t put him on my insurance yet because my open enrollment period hasn’t come around yet.) I’m still trying to find a cause/cure for the headaches and migraines that I’ve endured for 20 years, but the money’s running out. I don’t know what the answer is, but I certainly know that the current system isn’t working.

Thinking of you, ESC, and hoping that the cure for what ails you in quick and cheap.

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]]> By: The Daily Randi http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8335 The Daily Randi Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:20:12 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8335 By the way, the Tonik Health Insurance Plan you recommended, Tech Reader, does not cover Maternity, one of The Reasons It Is So Inexpensive. Most Women Of Child-Bearing Age require Maternity and Gynecological Coverage. xoxo, TDR<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8335','The Daily Randi'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8335','The Daily Randi','By the way, the Tonik Health Insurance Plan you recommended, Tech Reader, does not cover Maternity, one of The Reasons It Is So Inexpensive. Most Women Of Child-Bearing Age require Maternity and Gynecological Coverage.\n\nxoxo,\nTDR'); return false;">Quote</a></div> By the way, the Tonik Health Insurance Plan you recommended, Tech Reader, does not cover Maternity, one of The Reasons It Is So Inexpensive. Most Women Of Child-Bearing Age require Maternity and Gynecological Coverage.

xoxo,
TDR

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]]> By: FrkHansen http://evilsciencechick.com/2008/11/22/sicko/comment-page-1/#comment-8334 FrkHansen Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:49:38 +0000 http://evilsciencechick.com/?p=1974#comment-8334 Sooo... I'm Danish. I pay for health care through my taxes. Our government run health care system (which, you know, has been a fiasco in every country that has tried it), allows me to go to my GP, to specialists, to the hospital and to the ER without handing over anything but my social security card. There is a small annual co-pay for prescription medicine, which is only bad if you are on some kind of special/expensive medication. I suffer from chronic migraines, so I have private insurance on the side - it's less than $35 a month, and it fully covers my extra medication costs. Reading your description of the last few days... It makes me feel so incredibly spoiled. I can't imagine having to make that kind of decisions, and I'm so, so sorry that you had to.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8334','FrkHansen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8334','FrkHansen','Sooo... I\'m Danish. I pay for health care through my taxes. Our government run health care system (which, you know, has been a fiasco in every country that has tried it), allows me to go to my GP, to specialists, to the hospital and to the ER without handing over anything but my social security card. There is a small annual co-pay for prescription medicine, which is only bad if you are on some kind of special\/expensive medication. I suffer from chronic migraines, so I have private insurance on the side - it\'s less than $35 a month, and it fully covers my extra medication costs. \n\nReading your description of the last few days... It makes me feel so incredibly spoiled. I can\'t imagine having to make that kind of decisions, and I\'m so, so sorry that you had to.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Sooo… I’m Danish. I pay for health care through my taxes. Our government run health care system (which, you know, has been a fiasco in every country that has tried it), allows me to go to my GP, to specialists, to the hospital and to the ER without handing over anything but my social security card. There is a small annual co-pay for prescription medicine, which is only bad if you are on some kind of special/expensive medication. I suffer from chronic migraines, so I have private insurance on the side – it’s less than $35 a month, and it fully covers my extra medication costs.

Reading your description of the last few days… It makes me feel so incredibly spoiled. I can’t imagine having to make that kind of decisions, and I’m so, so sorry that you had to.

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